these are some serious magazines. 30rd .40 S&W, for my kel-tec sub-2000. a mag-loader is REQUIRED for these, no way will you get past 20 rounds, and probably not past 15, without one. i havent actually weighed them, but i suspect that the two magazines fully loaded (together) weigh more than the gun im going to be shooting them from. really. you can get one for yourself from cheaper than dirt...



now im all excited :) i want to wait until the weekend to go shoot my new sub-2000 so i can shoot with my brother... but i may not be able to resist hitting the range tonight :)